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		<title>Comment on the gay thing by Timmy Tokars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy Tokars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great topic. I have always been intrigued by this topic myself. I just can&#039;t decide what Truth is in regards to homosexuality. this post and the subsequent comments have greatly aided me.
The main arguments and my responses:
1) To hate, or not to hate.
- That&#039;s easy, not to hate, always. OF COURSE love everybody. We are all God&#039;s people, and we all need each other to be happy.
2) Where did the rules on the number of spouses change?
- To me, it seems to have changed somewhere between Adam and Eve and those you noted, and then back again somewhere in between those you noted and now. I don&#039;t think God ever intended for men to have several wives. As we can see from Abram, Hagar, and Sarai, it is not the healthiest of situations.
3) God can change His mind on things.
- I&#039;m not sure that God has a mind to change. God just...is. Simply because we as an individual or a collective group have learned something and see it in a different view or a view closer to the truth, doesn&#039;t mean that God has changed something. All it really means is that we have made progress or regressed.
4) If homosexuality is a choice, why would anyone choose it and all that comes with it?
- Firstly, there are societies in which homosexuality is not looked down upon. So, that can&#039;t be a valid argument. Secondly, the defense that Christian choose similarly difficult prosecution is also invalid.
Pete, you mirrored Reuben&#039;s question and asked why you would choose to be a Christian if you had to go through what Christians go through(which we should really rejoice because it can make us better and stronger, like it says in the Book of James). Well, I&#039;d safely assume that you chose to be a Follower of Christ because you believe that His teachings are Truth. Similarly, homosexuals believe that they prefer the same sex as far as sexual relationships go. That is not to say they are right or wrong; it just explains their choice.
5) Lisa, you said that if you believe that homosexuality is NOT a choice then you have to believe that God made them that way.
- It is hard to argue the latter until the former argument has been agreed upon. I mean, you technically CAN, as in nobody is stopping you. But the latter won&#039;t get through since it depends on the former.
6) Joni and Jen adequately cleared up the &quot;wrong toys&quot; argument.

Until now, my view has depended upon the theory that the vast majority homosexual parents would not be able to create a balanced household because they are of the same sex. However, I am not really sure how to argue that theory. I could do a mass survey and simply rely on the stats, but that would be horrible insulting and outrageous. What I am left with is a simple observational study of men and women. It comes to my attention that there are a myriad of degrees of femininity and masculinity.  So it is extremely difficult for me to argue that there needs to be a balance of emotions in any relationship, especially where multiple relationships are formed. I suppose the best argument I would have is that if you put all of those degrees on a giant circle, the most healthy relationships are usually between two people opposite the circle.
On top of that potential argument is the very last point that was made by Jen. It made me glad that I read to the bottom. She made a simple observation of the way God made our bodies. I was upset with myself that I did not realize how solid of an argument that is. Combined with my previous point on healthy relationships, I think that is my current position on homosexuality: 1) It seems to me that a heterosexual relationship is healthier for both the couple and any children. 2) It seems that God intended a man to be with a woman physically.
But the most important rule: LOVE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great topic. I have always been intrigued by this topic myself. I just can&#8217;t decide what Truth is in regards to homosexuality. this post and the subsequent comments have greatly aided me.<br />
The main arguments and my responses:<br />
1) To hate, or not to hate.<br />
- That&#8217;s easy, not to hate, always. OF COURSE love everybody. We are all God&#8217;s people, and we all need each other to be happy.<br />
2) Where did the rules on the number of spouses change?<br />
- To me, it seems to have changed somewhere between Adam and Eve and those you noted, and then back again somewhere in between those you noted and now. I don&#8217;t think God ever intended for men to have several wives. As we can see from Abram, Hagar, and Sarai, it is not the healthiest of situations.<br />
3) God can change His mind on things.<br />
- I&#8217;m not sure that God has a mind to change. God just&#8230;is. Simply because we as an individual or a collective group have learned something and see it in a different view or a view closer to the truth, doesn&#8217;t mean that God has changed something. All it really means is that we have made progress or regressed.<br />
4) If homosexuality is a choice, why would anyone choose it and all that comes with it?<br />
- Firstly, there are societies in which homosexuality is not looked down upon. So, that can&#8217;t be a valid argument. Secondly, the defense that Christian choose similarly difficult prosecution is also invalid.<br />
Pete, you mirrored Reuben&#8217;s question and asked why you would choose to be a Christian if you had to go through what Christians go through(which we should really rejoice because it can make us better and stronger, like it says in the Book of James). Well, I&#8217;d safely assume that you chose to be a Follower of Christ because you believe that His teachings are Truth. Similarly, homosexuals believe that they prefer the same sex as far as sexual relationships go. That is not to say they are right or wrong; it just explains their choice.<br />
5) Lisa, you said that if you believe that homosexuality is NOT a choice then you have to believe that God made them that way.<br />
- It is hard to argue the latter until the former argument has been agreed upon. I mean, you technically CAN, as in nobody is stopping you. But the latter won&#8217;t get through since it depends on the former.<br />
6) Joni and Jen adequately cleared up the &#8220;wrong toys&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>Until now, my view has depended upon the theory that the vast majority homosexual parents would not be able to create a balanced household because they are of the same sex. However, I am not really sure how to argue that theory. I could do a mass survey and simply rely on the stats, but that would be horrible insulting and outrageous. What I am left with is a simple observational study of men and women. It comes to my attention that there are a myriad of degrees of femininity and masculinity.  So it is extremely difficult for me to argue that there needs to be a balance of emotions in any relationship, especially where multiple relationships are formed. I suppose the best argument I would have is that if you put all of those degrees on a giant circle, the most healthy relationships are usually between two people opposite the circle.<br />
On top of that potential argument is the very last point that was made by Jen. It made me glad that I read to the bottom. She made a simple observation of the way God made our bodies. I was upset with myself that I did not realize how solid of an argument that is. Combined with my previous point on healthy relationships, I think that is my current position on homosexuality: 1) It seems to me that a heterosexual relationship is healthier for both the couple and any children. 2) It seems that God intended a man to be with a woman physically.<br />
But the most important rule: LOVE!</p>
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		<title>Comment on in the terminal with neil diamond by Jen</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/in-the-terminal-with-neil-diamond/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh ps....here&#039;s  a GREAT verse:

&quot;No temptation has seized you except what is common to man.  And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.  But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you an stand up under it.&quot;

It&#039;s always encouraging to know that God won&#039;t allow me to be tempted with anything that can beat me, and nothing can when I have Him helping me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh ps&#8230;.here&#8217;s  a GREAT verse:</p>
<p>&#8220;No temptation has seized you except what is common to man.  And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.  But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you an stand up under it.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always encouraging to know that God won&#8217;t allow me to be tempted with anything that can beat me, and nothing can when I have Him helping me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on in the terminal with neil diamond by Jen</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/in-the-terminal-with-neil-diamond/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuben, don&#039;t EVER think that it&#039;s too late to &#039;start over&#039;.  The right girl will come and she will love you regardless of what you&#039;ve done in your past.  If God can forgive you (which he certainly has!) than so can the woman you will spend the rest of your life with.  Satan&#039;s going to try to keep reminding you of your sin and make you feel as awful about it as he can but the awesome thing that you have to hold on to is that you are forgiven.  

Doug&#039;s right.....you&#039;ll never be spiritually ready....I&#039;d love for someone to give me a definition of that :)  Keep chasing after God and sometime along the way, you&#039;re going to find a girl that is running just as fast as you.  I have found in my relationship with Brad that it&#039;s not how much Biblical knowledge we each know or how long we&#039;ve been a Follower of Christ, but how fast we&#039;re running.  Are we both seeking Jesus with a similar ferocity?  

I really admire and commend you on your desire to change your standards.  That&#039;s such a hard thing to do but God will give you strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuben, don&#8217;t EVER think that it&#8217;s too late to &#8217;start over&#8217;.  The right girl will come and she will love you regardless of what you&#8217;ve done in your past.  If God can forgive you (which he certainly has!) than so can the woman you will spend the rest of your life with.  Satan&#8217;s going to try to keep reminding you of your sin and make you feel as awful about it as he can but the awesome thing that you have to hold on to is that you are forgiven.  </p>
<p>Doug&#8217;s right&#8230;..you&#8217;ll never be spiritually ready&#8230;.I&#8217;d love for someone to give me a definition of that <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Keep chasing after God and sometime along the way, you&#8217;re going to find a girl that is running just as fast as you.  I have found in my relationship with Brad that it&#8217;s not how much Biblical knowledge we each know or how long we&#8217;ve been a Follower of Christ, but how fast we&#8217;re running.  Are we both seeking Jesus with a similar ferocity?  </p>
<p>I really admire and commend you on your desire to change your standards.  That&#8217;s such a hard thing to do but God will give you strength.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the gay thing by Jen</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/the-gay-thing/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you&#039;ve had some great posts on here!  I love the wisdom and insight that Doug and Joni gave.  

I do agree with you that it is difficult to sort through which OT laws we follow and which ones we don&#039;t.  I&#039;d encourage you to read the Message Remix.  It takes you through the entire Bible and parallels books from the OT and NT that deal with similar topics and discusses the biggest difference between the two:  law vs Jesus.  It&#039;s a great version!

Anyways, I have been raised in a Christian home since the day I was born but over and over again I was taught to &#039;hate the sin, not the person&#039; and that applied to every sin.  I love that my parents were such an incredible example to me of loving others, regardless of their past, looks, or sin.  I do believe that the Bible talks specifically about homosexual sin, just as it discusses many other sins, as Doug mentioned.  I also do believe it is a choice.  You should also read Genesis 2 where it tells the creation of man and woman. 

Joni raised a great point that just because your friend wanted to play with so called &#039;boy stuff&#039; doesn&#039;t mean she was destined to be gay.  That kind of mindset is and has been damaging to children drawn to the so called &#039;wrong&#039; toys or colors or clothes.  Maybe it started with infants being called the wrong gender and mothers getting mad :)  

As a science nerd, I also look at homosexuality from a biology point of view.  Not to sound crude but, look at the parts. The fact that everything works so well...sex, conception, everything, to me shows God&#039;s incredible design for man and woman to be together...to be one.  

The thing that I hate so much is that the church has decided to lessen so many other sins and single out those people with any sort of homosexual tendencies.  It is so sad to me that so many have fallen away from the Greatest Commandment:  to love.  My hope and prayer is that I will show unconditional love to whomever I meet, no matter the sin, and that through that, they will come to know Christ and He will reveal the sin in their lives to them.  We need to stop being the ones to point the finger and instead just love and let God in his own awesome way show us our sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;ve had some great posts on here!  I love the wisdom and insight that Doug and Joni gave.  </p>
<p>I do agree with you that it is difficult to sort through which OT laws we follow and which ones we don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;d encourage you to read the Message Remix.  It takes you through the entire Bible and parallels books from the OT and NT that deal with similar topics and discusses the biggest difference between the two:  law vs Jesus.  It&#8217;s a great version!</p>
<p>Anyways, I have been raised in a Christian home since the day I was born but over and over again I was taught to &#8216;hate the sin, not the person&#8217; and that applied to every sin.  I love that my parents were such an incredible example to me of loving others, regardless of their past, looks, or sin.  I do believe that the Bible talks specifically about homosexual sin, just as it discusses many other sins, as Doug mentioned.  I also do believe it is a choice.  You should also read Genesis 2 where it tells the creation of man and woman. </p>
<p>Joni raised a great point that just because your friend wanted to play with so called &#8216;boy stuff&#8217; doesn&#8217;t mean she was destined to be gay.  That kind of mindset is and has been damaging to children drawn to the so called &#8216;wrong&#8217; toys or colors or clothes.  Maybe it started with infants being called the wrong gender and mothers getting mad <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>As a science nerd, I also look at homosexuality from a biology point of view.  Not to sound crude but, look at the parts. The fact that everything works so well&#8230;sex, conception, everything, to me shows God&#8217;s incredible design for man and woman to be together&#8230;to be one.  </p>
<p>The thing that I hate so much is that the church has decided to lessen so many other sins and single out those people with any sort of homosexual tendencies.  It is so sad to me that so many have fallen away from the Greatest Commandment:  to love.  My hope and prayer is that I will show unconditional love to whomever I meet, no matter the sin, and that through that, they will come to know Christ and He will reveal the sin in their lives to them.  We need to stop being the ones to point the finger and instead just love and let God in his own awesome way show us our sin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what to do when there&#8217;s nothing to do. by Emily</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/what-to-do-when-theres-nothing-to-do/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, ill be home in a week and we can find a reasonable gym in between the two of us geographically, and then ill be the one telling you to get off your ass.  the good thing about that is that youll be the one telling me to get off my ass, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, ill be home in a week and we can find a reasonable gym in between the two of us geographically, and then ill be the one telling you to get off your ass.  the good thing about that is that youll be the one telling me to get off my ass, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what to do when there&#8217;s nothing to do. by Sherry</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/what-to-do-when-theres-nothing-to-do/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Lisa (above). I also have downtime while waiting for my next task which is sometimes better than playing beat the clock, which is a losing proposition from the get go. 

The part I agree with on Lisa&#039;s is &quot;be still&quot; and &quot;listen&quot;. Appreicate the subtle things going on around you. God is always communicating to us but are we really listening?

For exercise; meditate quietly, watch your breathing, tighten your muscles and hold. No it&#039;s not like lifting weights or cardio but as you get older gravity takes over and something is better than nothing at all. 

Nice to something on your blog. See you at the Orchard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lisa (above). I also have downtime while waiting for my next task which is sometimes better than playing beat the clock, which is a losing proposition from the get go. </p>
<p>The part I agree with on Lisa&#8217;s is &#8220;be still&#8221; and &#8220;listen&#8221;. Appreicate the subtle things going on around you. God is always communicating to us but are we really listening?</p>
<p>For exercise; meditate quietly, watch your breathing, tighten your muscles and hold. No it&#8217;s not like lifting weights or cardio but as you get older gravity takes over and something is better than nothing at all. </p>
<p>Nice to something on your blog. See you at the Orchard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what to do when there&#8217;s nothing to do. by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/what-to-do-when-theres-nothing-to-do/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not good with downtime either, unless it&#039;s at the end of the day and I&#039;m exhausted.  I think downtime during work is not true downtime because I have to pay for it with &quot;frenzytime&quot; later.

Could it be that God is telling you to be still and listen during those downtimes? Sometimes His voice seems so hard to hear when I&#039;m looking for the meaning behind something. Like downtime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not good with downtime either, unless it&#8217;s at the end of the day and I&#8217;m exhausted.  I think downtime during work is not true downtime because I have to pay for it with &#8220;frenzytime&#8221; later.</p>
<p>Could it be that God is telling you to be still and listen during those downtimes? Sometimes His voice seems so hard to hear when I&#8217;m looking for the meaning behind something. Like downtime.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the gay thing by Pete</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/the-gay-thing/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asked &quot;why would someone choose a lifestyle that would bring on hatred, contempt, separation from family, bigotry, and violence&quot;.  I&#039;ve chosen to be a Christian and have faced all of those (except violence) because of it.  Gays are not the only ones who face that.  Sadly there is enough hate to go around for everyone.

I have a cousin who is gay and we get along fine.  He lives in California and visits us once a year.  I look at him as my cousin, not as a gay person.

Glad I found your blog dude!  Heavy discussion!!  My blog is just full of nonsense! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked &#8220;why would someone choose a lifestyle that would bring on hatred, contempt, separation from family, bigotry, and violence&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve chosen to be a Christian and have faced all of those (except violence) because of it.  Gays are not the only ones who face that.  Sadly there is enough hate to go around for everyone.</p>
<p>I have a cousin who is gay and we get along fine.  He lives in California and visits us once a year.  I look at him as my cousin, not as a gay person.</p>
<p>Glad I found your blog dude!  Heavy discussion!!  My blog is just full of nonsense! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on week # mumble by Lisa</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/week-mumble/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re starting *again* today. Good luck with it, I know you can do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re starting *again* today. Good luck with it, I know you can do it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on week # mumble by Doug</title>
		<link>http://reubenhood.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/week-mumble/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Farley.

THAT&#039;S funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Farley.</p>
<p>THAT&#8217;S funny!</p>
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